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Old 07-02-2008, 06:47 AM
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Ok, If you really want to get in shape, Lori Smith, Rodney Smiths wife, will be back at the end of the month, and does training at there house in Antioch. If you want to be in the best shape of your life, you need to get a hold of her! She does poloties (spelling?) that works on your inter core strength, works perfect for MX. She will kick your butt, but you will be in great shape, and be able to ride 1 hour moto's with out a problem! If you are interested, PM me and I can give you her number.
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:19 AM
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who needs to train to ride the cmc novice class? lol
its not just for novice class dildo, I just wanna get in shape
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Little Chocalate Donuts and cigarettes !

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Old 07-02-2008, 10:05 AM
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You want the truth!!! You got to loose some weight first, you a big ass boy.

If you are serious:
Diet is #1 = There should be nothing in your cart but fresh fruit,vegies, chicken, fish and small portions of lean steak. Small portions throughout the day. Don't eat three big ass meals (except a big breakfast) and until you loose some weight try like hell to keep it under 2000 calories a day.
(Pretty much you can't ever eat out)

Workouts:
Cardio, cardio, cardio at least one hour a day in the evening. Running, rowing, cycling, mix it up, try not to do the same thing everyday.

In the mornings get your ass up early and do strength exercises. Pushups, pullups and situps every morning and lift heavy ass weights with your legs. You can't do to many squats. Jeff Ward was the master of keeping the legs strong, that is what you control the bike with. Without strong legs it doesn't matter how good a shape the rest of your body is in.

#1 Thing. Burn more than you eat **EVERY SINGLE DAY** until you get down to a good riding weight and then work from there. There is a reason you don't see any fat pros on the line at a national. It really isn't rocket science, you just have to have the mental toughness to take care of yourself and put in the hard work.
Nail on the head!!!!

Don't know Steven that well so I', not gonna call him out on being big - LOL.

Would like to add to Zach's training:

Don't confine yourself to working out in the morning, evening or whatever specific time.... Do it when you can, as often as you can. Studies have been done proving that people who work out every chance they have instead of at a certain time keep exercising regularly. Also, one thing I have tried to tell people is - Don't burn yourself out!!! "Diet" and workout in such a way that you will want to do it again tomorrow... and the next day.. and the next day.. etc.
Call your "Diet" your "lifestyle" or whatever makes you feel like your not on a "diet", just seems like such a gay word. Consider it your new way to eat - No cookies, candy.. not even the littlest bit, you would be surprised the benefits you see from not eating the one cookie a week (along with a good "diet"). Ya and I second the No eating out. Subway is about the only exception - make sure you get the turkey and not the Ham (Heard you like Ham - hahaha). Make your sandwich(lunch) each and everyday before work or the night before.
Ham and Red meat has more calories=fattening, so try your best to cut down on both of them.
To go along with Zach some more: Muscle burns fat and your legs have the biggest muscles. So Strong muscular legs will help you burn more calories . Obviously helping you loose weight and get in better shape more quickly.
Sorry for the novel, but I myself have struggled with weight ever since my wife had our first kid, (gained the weight with her ) and have now gone down almost 50lbs.. and feel much better. The past year or so I lost most of it.. All of a sudden ridding 7-8 laps in a row isn't very hard to do, where 3 laps a year and half ago was a problem.

Good luck Steven
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:42 AM
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Sorry for the novel, but I myself have struggled with weight ever since my wife had our first kid, (gained the weight with her )

That is some funny stuff right there. Good points Sean, what lots of people don't realize about weight is that it also impacts the way a bike handles, which in turn makes it harder and more tiring to ride. It is kind of like a double edge sword.

And it isn't like Steven is way over weight, he is just fluffy like a down body pillow.
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It sure does seem easier to ride the bike now.

Fluffy pillow - LOL!!!
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Goals are really important too, I think. It's hard to drop weight just for the sake of dropping weight. I managed to drop some weight last year in preparation for the World Vets. I stayed motivated because the race meant a lot to me and provided a hard deadline.

But just like Sean357, things took a turn for the worse when we found out the Mrs was expecting (her due date is two days away so I'm feeling some anxiety). Hopefully once the baby arrives and we figure out a routine and I can get back into the gym.

Here's another question....how do you break through the inevitable plateau? When dieting, most people inevitably hit a plataue. It's like your metabolism adjusts or something. You guys got any tips for breaking through that?

BTW: Great thread! Motocross being as physically demanding as it is, I'm surprised how rarely this subject seems to come up on the forum.
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:24 PM
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Goals are really important too, I think. It's hard to drop weight just for the sake of dropping weight. I managed to drop some weight last year in preparation for the World Vets. I stayed motivated because the race meant a lot to me and provided a hard deadline.

But just like Sean357, things took a turn for the worse when we found out the Mrs was expecting (her due date is two days away so I'm feeling some anxiety). Hopefully once the baby arrives and we figure out a routine and I can get back into the gym.

Here's another question....how do you break through the inevitable plateau? When dieting, most people inevitably hit a plataue. It's like your metabolism adjusts or something. You guys got any tips for breaking through that?

BTW: Great thread! Motocross being as physically demanding as it is, I'm surprised how rarely this subject seems to come up on the forum.
Wait until your 46 and you are always on that platuea!! When I was in my late 20s and 30s and we were pumping weights real hard,,same thing happened...All the reading and advice at that time was to confuse the muscle by totally changing your routine...Lots have said that already...But it did help....But its hard to break your regular back/bi, legs,shoulders etc that you do.... I started running at 10 pm to lose weight for a contest and it worked....Heck now nothing works...But I cant push myself like before since I got hurt....Like some one stated calories lowered and more calories burned....Easier said then done..
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I view plateau's as your body saying "OK, I am doing the best I can with what you are giving and doing to me.....now what?" Plateau's should be looked at as a good thing - almost like moving up a class.

So basically every time you plateau you are ready for the next step which may be different for everyone. This is what has worked for me:

#1. Go through your eating habits with a fine tooth comb. May need the help of a professional or just someone who knows a little more than you. Reducing Sodium intake is mostly what I have done in the past (sunflower seeds, hot sauce, lots of stuff - check labels!!)
#2. Eat better. Give your body food that will help you workout not just fill you up.
#3. More intense workouts. Which can only be done effectively after 1 and 2.

I'm no pro, but I have learned what works for me by trial and error in the past 4 years.
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Chris, the Platuea is the result of not progressing the work out and diet with your bodies progression. Example: If I am out of shape and I run 5 9 minute miles every other day I will slowly get in shape. Eventually however my body will be able to handle that excersice I will stop to loose weight and and my cardio ability will stop progressing. The only way to get over that hump is to start running 5 8 minute miles and pushing the body.

There is a huge difference between training and getting in shape. You can't train until your body is in almost perfect shape. Once you have lost weight and are in healthy shape you can start training by increasing specific caloric intakes and really pushing specific physical abilities of your body. By doing this you get over the platuae and can push your body to its max. The problem is that most people jump right into hardcore "training" and there bodies can't handle it so they get burnt out fast and have a hard time sticking to a scheduled routine.

I would say that 99% of people have never really "trained." This is what olympic athletes, tour de france, and yes some professional motocrossers do, (i.e RC, Stewart, ect)

Some athletes in our sport are very good and get by on talent without real training. But since RC came along and pushed the envelope, even Stewart realized that what he thought was training wasn't the real deal.

The human body can be pushed to crazy limits, it just takes a unique mind to be able to take it there. Weight lose and fitness is IMO 90% what ones mind can handle.
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