The Riverfront Thread

[nickt916]

If Scott takes over riverfront the price better stay the same, and there better not be any membership stuff, it should be open as many days as it was if not a day or 2 more. Riverfront better not turn into Est #2 as far as technicality goes. Prep of riverfront better not change to worse and water when needed. If ownership is changed im sure we are all going to expect the same quality as before if not better. I just hope scott isnt getting his work cut out for him, 1 track is enough work for 2 guys running it. I have no offense to scott, or anything against Est the guy seems nice and takes care of his riders and his track. I hope this track thing is not a "battle for money" but whats best for everyone

[norcaladmin]

Originally Posted by nickt916

If Scott takes over riverfront the price better stay the same, and there better not be any membership stuff, it should be open as many days as it was if not a day or 2 more. Riverfront better not turn into Est #2 as far as technicality goes. Prep of riverfront better not change to worse and water when needed. If ownership is changed im sure we are all going to expect the same quality as before if not better. I just hope scott isnt getting his work cut out for him, 1 track is enough work for 2 guys running it. I have no offense to scott, or anything against Est the guy seems nice and takes care of his riders and his track. I hope this track thing is not a "battle for money" but whats best for everyone

You say it better not change like you are threatening to do something. Do you plan on a boycott?

[RCR YZ125]

Originally Posted by nickt916

If Scott takes over riverfront the price better stay the same, and there better not be any membership stuff, it should be open as many days as it was if not a day or 2 more. Riverfront better not turn into Est #2 as far as technicality goes. Prep of riverfront better not change to worse and water when needed. If ownership is changed im sure we are all going to expect the same quality as before if not better. I just hope scott isnt getting his work cut out for him, 1 track is enough work for 2 guys running it. I have no offense to scott, or anything against Est the guy seems nice and takes care of his riders and his track. I hope this track thing is not a "battle for money" but whats best for everyone

nick, I have asked scott about him changing riverfront and he has no intention of doing so.

[kirk]

Originally Posted by norcaladmin

You say it better not change like you are threatening to do something. Do you plan on a boycott?

touche' joey !

[motokid40]

Originally Posted by nickt916

If Scott takes over riverfront the price better stay the same, and there better not be any membership stuff, it should be open as many days as it was if not a day or 2 more. Riverfront better not turn into Est #2 as far as technicality goes. Prep of riverfront better not change to worse and water when needed. If ownership is changed im sure we are all going to expect the same quality as before if not better. I just hope scott isnt getting his work cut out for him, 1 track is enough work for 2 guys running it. I have no offense to scott, or anything against Est the guy seems nice and takes care of his riders and his track. I hope this track thing is not a "battle for money" but whats best for everyone

[hrlyman]

Originally Posted by norcaladmin

You say it better not change like you are threatening to do something. Do you plan on a boycott?

You say that like its a bad thing.... So are you saying that if people (on this forum) are willing to support Charlie and the ways that Riverfront are being run right now that we wouldnt be welcome here or wouldnt be able to express our support?

Sounds like people are drawing "lines in the sand" and that will tend to start divisions between all of us which is exactly what these things tend to do. People will take sides and sides require defensive measures.

I thought this was gonna be a good thing ... for all of us.... hmmmm maybe that needs to be re-thought.

[osulli170]

at this point we need all the tracks we can get... my buddy that lives down south said that there are 3 more tracks opening in the next couple of months and the new track off of 395 that Larry63r posted if proof of one..

we not to fight over ownership.. its all apart of business.. and im sure scott will do an awesome job like he alwasy does..

[TeamGreen]

Here's some objective opinning about both tracks from someone who rides Nor-&-So Cal:

E-Street:
1. Costs more and that seems to weed out some of the Yahoos.
2. Harder track to go fast on (Within' the confines of your own Classification and the "Fast-Guys in it, that is!)and that will make you a better rider in the "Big-Picture"...obviously/especially at Sand-Tracks...Real sand tracks.
3. To some extent, a different crowd. For the most part, a little bit faster crowd...at times.
4. A little bit better segregatation of riders/bike sizes/sessions.
5. The 40 minute sessions are the bomb!
5. Less "Technical" and more "Out-Doors" than...

Riverfront:
1. Cost less (A good thing!); but, seems to have more Yahoos becuase of this (I'm jus' bein' real wit'ya!)
2. A Tighter more "Technical" track...especially in the "Outdoor" v. "Indoor" comparo.
3. Sometimes the place seems a bit "Dangerous" for the mix of slower v. faster riders that can end up on the track at the same-time (Segregation of riders/bike sizes/sessions).
4. Track/Jump design is very much in tune with where MX racing is/is going at most local venues. The place is actually a bit of a "Benchmark" in track design when you look at the last 30 years of Moto!
5. The CMC races are real cost effective for those of us that race thru-out the state. Especially in the various series'.

In the end, it's ironic that anyone would take the time to bitch about either place without realizing that we're luckyashe!! to have -2- GREAT tracks so close to home (And, I live IN REDDING!!!!!!)

I like Charlie and Scott. 2 good guys with good facilities.

Manny

[hrlyman]

Originally Posted by TeamGreen

In the end, it's ironic that anyone would take the time to bitch about either place without realizing that we're luckyashe!! to have -2- GREAT tracks so close to home (And, I live IN REDDING!!!!!!)

I like Charlie and Scott. 2 good guys with good facilities.

I dont believe that anyone is bitching about either track or the way it is run or operated at any level. I think everyone here believes that both guys ARE great individuals and running great tracks for what they want and the people that go to them want. And they should both be left alone as is.

The ideology of a problem exists ONLY in the nature in which the ownership of the track is being handled and WHY???????? and for what purpose? You'll have to read Mapicella's post on the other Riverfront thread to get the entire picture, he said it best...

[norcaladmin]

Originally Posted by hrlyman

You say that like its a bad thing.... So are you saying that if people (on this forum) are willing to support Charlie and the ways that Riverfront are being run right now that we wouldnt be welcome here or wouldnt be able to express our support?

Sounds like people are drawing "lines in the sand" and that will tend to start divisions between all of us which is exactly what these things tend to do. People will take sides and sides require defensive measures.

I thought this was gonna be a good thing ... for all of us.... hmmmm maybe that needs to be re-thought.

To the contrary, Its not a bad thing. It was just a honest question. Because as a consumer, the only way you affect change of a business/product is to not support it. I honeslty dont care if Scott gets it or Charlie gets it. I dont like to ride Riverfront. One reason is I cant see very well at night, so i dont ride there at night. The other is I have a hard time passing E Street to ride Riverfront. If there was a race I wanted to do at Riverfront, or E Street was closed on a day I wanted to ride, I would ride Riverfront. Its just not my preferred place to ride. Unless Scott can some how include a lasik surgery with my 15 dollars I still wont be riding E Street at night no matter who owns it. Also I really dont like riding when there are 300 people at the track and I dont see that changing no matter who owns it. People like to ride there.

With that said, I just want to make sure people understand my posistion on the matter. I am pro Scott Davis. If Scott wants to run Riverfront, I am going to support him as a person. I dont see anything wrong with what he is doing. If I did, I would tell him. Thats what friends do. they tell their friend they are f*(&ing up. I dont think he is. If Scott wants to club homeless people in the head I wouldnt support him.

I dont think anybody has to draw lines in the Sand. If Charlie wants to take over E Street than go for it. If he wins great. I will still ride at E Street as long as its safe, well maintained and worth my 20 dollars. When its not I wont go there anymore, not because Charlie or anyone else runs it. I will stop riding there, when I dont feel its worth my hard earned money.

I think Nick or anyone else who feels strongly enough about the situation to make a stand. If you morally dont want to ride at Riverfront because Scott takes it over then stick to your guns and dont ride there. Everyone has to make their own decision.